European Olympic Team - Union is Strength - commentaires European Olympic Team - Union is Strength 2010-03-09T14:41:43Z https://www.taurillon.org/European-Olympic-Team-Union-is-Strength#comment8107 2010-03-09T14:41:43Z <p>Dearest Charles,</p> <p>As a fellow Brit my initial gut reaction to your comment is to be somewhat horrified and appalled - but with a statement like that, I imagine it was the intended purpose.</p> <p>I can fully support the sentiments previously made by 'Convicted European' in that I think you should fully check your supporting facts. It is precisely such nationalistic unfounded facts, often fed to the Great British public through the gutter press that helps breed what I believe to be a vastly unnecessary anti-European sentiment : whether it be towards the EU, or to the idea of belonging to a wider European community. Like 'Convicted European' said, you could choose to lobby for the UK to leave the EU ; but even with the anti-European Conservative government looming, I can not see this happening in our lifetime.</p> <p>I fully accept your right to air your opinion through whatever means you so wish, but please, we are talking about historical events that you really should get over, after all, the rest of Europe has.</p> European Olympic Team - Union is Strength 2010-03-09T10:35:21Z https://www.taurillon.org/European-Olympic-Team-Union-is-Strength#comment8106 2010-03-09T10:35:21Z <p>Dear Charles,</p> <p>great to see that the UK-based sceptisism towards European integration is alive and kicking but it would be better if you got your facts sorted out and didn't make unfounded remarks like these. The EU is far from perfect but is at least in many ways more transparent of a system than in many member states of the EU. Feeling proud to be a European is simply a feeling that you don't share, fair enough. So feel free to lobby for the UK to leave the EU, at least with the new Lisbon Treaty you finally have the legal posibility to do so.</p> European Olympic Team - Union is Strength 2010-03-09T09:17:19Z https://www.taurillon.org/European-Olympic-Team-Union-is-Strength#comment8105 2010-03-09T09:17:19Z <p>Just like the Austrians were cheering and waving in 1938 for a greater Europe - I suppose that started as a « simple thought experiment to promote European spirit »</p> European Olympic Team - Union is Strength 2010-03-05T08:16:19Z https://www.taurillon.org/European-Olympic-Team-Union-is-Strength#comment8078 2010-03-05T08:16:19Z <p>Thanks a lot for your nice press release re : EU Vancouver medals : yes, indeed the European dimension should be strengthened and, incl all European countries (and not only EU27 ...) Europeans have got 45 gold medals : quite an achievement ! Would encourage you to start finally a campaign to get the European flag to be present with each European Olympic team. This would make a great difference in perception and identity. However, having said that we should be careful not to repeat Nationalism just on a higher level ... Good luck.</p> <p>Hugo LUEDERS, Brussels hlueders<span class="mcrypt"> chez </span>scarlet.be</p> European Olympic Team - Union is Strength 2010-03-04T08:43:47Z https://www.taurillon.org/European-Olympic-Team-Union-is-Strength#comment8074 2010-03-04T08:43:47Z <p>It is difficult to escape traditional sense of belonging to a group. Counting the EU medals could help to build a sense of belonging to EU, because otherwise, Europe is still very often a concept, an idea with no flavor, no feeling, ...</p> <p>Olympics could be thus the opportunity to show the symbols of belonging : EU flag, anthem without removing national symbols. I'm a European born in France, so I'm in the same time French and European.</p> European Olympic Team - Union is Strength 2010-03-03T22:52:35Z https://www.taurillon.org/European-Olympic-Team-Union-is-Strength#comment8072 2010-03-03T22:52:35Z <p>See this page for the countdown of EU medals :</p> <div class="spip_document_ spip_document spip_documents ressource oembed"> <figure class="spip_doc_inner"> <span class="oembed oe-link"> <a href="http://jelyon69.wordpress.com/vancouver-2010/" class="spip_out spip_url" rel='nofollow'>http://jelyon69.wordpress.com/vancouver-2010/</a> </span> <figcaption class="spip_doc_legende"><div class="spip_doc_titre oembed-source"><a href="http://jelyon69.wordpress.com/vancouver-2010/" class="spip_url spip_out auto" rel="nofollow external">http://jelyon69.wordpress.com/vancouver-2010/</a></div></figcaption></figure> </div> European Olympic Team - Union is Strength 2010-03-03T00:04:14Z https://www.taurillon.org/European-Olympic-Team-Union-is-Strength#comment8070 2010-03-03T00:04:14Z <p>« Emphasising the European dimension in this kind of context means showing our attachment to our European identity. »</p> <p>Thus only counting the EU medals, when Europe is more than just the EU ? I'm simply not comfortable with such a comparison. Even you took the continents, Europe would be okay in the results, and so would be North-America. But that's not what counts in my humble opinion.</p> European Olympic Team - Union is Strength 2010-03-02T12:51:45Z https://www.taurillon.org/European-Olympic-Team-Union-is-Strength#comment8069 2010-03-02T12:51:45Z <p>Putting all EU medals together and comparing numbers with the US or Canada is not a valid comparison, because if there was just one EU team we would have much less starters in the different disciplines.</p> <p>Julien, <a href="http://julienfrisch.blogspot.com" class="spip_url spip_out auto" rel="nofollow external">http://julienfrisch.blogspot.com</a></p>